NeoTec FLC round are now available off of the web store!
By using the 20ga 3” NeoTec Copper slug you have made your slug gun into a BIG BORE Rifle that is ballisticly better than the 45/70 Govt standard production round. The slug is a .62 caliber bullet, 26% bigger in diameter then the 45 caliber and 500+fps faster than the 45/70 Govt round. Don’t WAST your slugs/MONEY shooting at 100yds to begin with; (you may be disappointed). UNTIL you can shoot golf ball sizes GROUPS at 50 yards, you have not mastered shooting a Big Bore Rifle form a shooting bench. As with any new technology, there always seems to be a cause and effect issue that comes to light and must be considered, to get the best performance out of something New or Improved. Sometimes they require making some open minded adjustments.
The NeoTec FLC slug DOES NOT react like any other 20ga slug round you have ever fired. The 3″ 20ga NeoTec FLC 355gr Copper slug has a unique felt recoil. It feels and reacts like a low velocity big bore rifle, because that’s what it is! But its recoil duration time is almost twice the amount of time that a normal Big Bore Rifle, shooting above 75+ grains of gun powder! That means you cannot relax your grip on the gun as you squeeze the trigger. Relaxing your grip comes after the recoil cycle is almost over!
“Full bore size Copper slugs and gun Torque“:
All of the TIME the slug spends moving thru the barrel; the muzzle is constantly rising above the point of aim “NO MATTER WHAT”. May be the forend has even lifting up off the rest? As the slug enters the rifling it is trying to twist the slug gun clockwise, as it accelerates from ZERO up to 52,000rpm’s. These two actions working together causes the 10:30 flyer issue, even at 50 yards. If a high left shot is consistently frustrates you; it is because to light a grip was used particularly with your left hand! Depending on what point you loosen your grip on the gun, during the recoil cycle, the flyer can go high right toward 2:00; if the right hand torque if the clock wise rotation is allowed to completely overcome the gun during the recoil cycle.
“This is a Must” “Consistence Gun Control”:
A firm two hand (GRIP) style gun control is required while shooting the 20ga 3” NeoTec FLC slug gun off of a shooting bench. GRIP the slug gun the same way you would hold onto any other Big Bore Mag rifle, to keep from being hit above the eye by the telescope.
When you use the proper two handed grip and if you’re sitting in the right position behind the gun. UNLESS the slug gun slides straight back ON THE REST, with minimal muzzle lift, while the slug is in the barrel, you are going to continue to shoot large groups even at 50 yards.
A “very consistence amount of grip” is required with both hands, shot to shot, firing any slug past 135 yards. The amount of muzzle lift will be in-consistent; as any changes in your GRIP will affect the trajectory (point of impact) down range. Every shooter will hold the gun slightly different but ONLY when you become consistence in your GRIP, can you truly zero your slug gun. That’s why another person CANNOT truly zero someone else’s slug gun.
If the overall felt recoil, felt thru the grip of your hands on the gun and the push on you shoulder, doesn’t feel the same each round, thru out the recoil cycle; you have not yet master the technique of shooting a slow Big Bore Rifle off of a bench. And accuracy will suffer.
Zeroing a bolt action slug from a Shooting Bench:
The 20ga 3″ NeoTec™ FLC slug round may have been designed to be fired in a 3″ 20ga slug gun with a factory chamber, and a fully rifled barrel. “But it feels and reacts like the big bore rifle”, because that’s what it is. But it takes almost twice the amount of time to do it, as a rifle does! That means you cannot relax your grip on the gun as you squeeze the trigger. Relaxing your grip comes after the recoil cycle is over! The tendency of most shooters is too relax their grip and back away from the gun as the trigger is squeezed; instead of continue holding the grip until the recoil cycle is almost done. Thinking this will somehow reduce the actual total felt recoil? The reality is the felt recoil is now even more as the 10lb gun gets a running shot at you shoulder, instead of the recoil energy being used up pushing your upper body over center and absorbed at a much more comfortable rate. Avoid leaning forward at a sharp angle, sitting behind a hard recoiling rifle, as the recoil is NOW trying slide you and the bench you’re sitting on, backwards!
Setting up your slug gun at the shooting bench:
You have just read all the technical reasons why the 20ga 3” NeoTec™ FLC Copper slug could move around a lot when firing off of a shooting bench. Start with how YOU physically set at the bench and how YOU set up your slug gun on the shooting bench, to begin with. It is just as important as the technical side of controlling the slug gun itself. It would take a long time to explain how to do just that in writing. The TarHunt web site has a video that explains just that. All the major points are discussed in this video. It is well worth the 4.5 minutes it takes to view this video. On the HOME page, mid-section, left side. BOLT ACTION ZEROING TECHNIQUES.
“Learn from the mistakes of others”. “You won’t live long enough to make all of them yourself.”
Un-known “TarHunt Est. 1987” “In GOD we trust!”
Randy Fritz, pres.
The NeoTec FLC line up:
NeoTec™ FLC round: NeoTec™: (new technology) FLC: “Full Length Case”
AVAILABLE NOW: The 62cal 20ga: 2 3/4” & 3” “NeoTec™ FLC 355gr Copper slug is just shy of the so called normal (385gr 7/8oz) 20ga slug rounds that have been loaded for decades.
Availability: The 12ga 2 ¾” & 3” 12ga NeoTec™ FLC rounds will depend on the PRICE AND AVAILABLITY OF THE .750 DIAMETER Copper rod. The 73cal 12ga: NeoTec™ FLC (1oz+gr) Copper bore size slug was designed to weight the same range as normal recoil of trap and sporting clay rounds. To help hunters understand that a (465gr) slug is NOT a real a heavy weight slug in 12ga 73 caliber bore. The 12ga NeoTec™ FLC Copper slug will be loaded in both 2 ¾” and 3” rounds and should be fired in their appropriate length chamber the best performance. The normal (1oz- 437.5gr) bore size 12 gauge rifled slug is a very light and is very short length for the (.730ths) 12ga bore size.
Remember the “Why case length is so Important” ; applies to both the 20ga and 12ga especially when it is fired in a rifled barreled slug gun!
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NOTE: By using this product the USER assumes all responsibility for firing this round through any type of a fixed choke or choke tube, period! TarHunt is NOT responsible for any and all damages to the firearm(s), person(s) firing the firearm, and or person(s) as bystanders due to any misuse.
WARNING: FOR FULLY RIFLED BARRELS ONLY. Keep out of the reach of children!
For your reference: The 20ga Schrifle™ slug must fit the barrel exactly like a rifle bullet fits the bore of a center fire rifle barrel. The 20ga Schrifle™ round was designed to be fired thru a SAAMI spec rifled slug barrel. SAAMI specification for a rifled slug barrel ONLY allows for a .002ths maximum tolerance period!
The Internal size of a SAAMI specification rifled slug barrel: On top of the rifling (bore diameter) is .609ths minimum and .611ths is the maximum diameters. In the bottom of the rifling between the lands (grove diameter) is .618ths minimum and .620ths maximum diameter. The 20ga Schrifle Copper 365gr or the NeoTec FLC Copper 355gr projectile is .619ths in diameter, exactly in the middle of the (grove diameters) set at .618ths min. and 620ths maximin diameter.
The 20ga Schrifle™ Raptor™ Alv is a 270gr @1975fps High Performance non-sabot full bore size slug for rifled barrels. The 20ga Schrifle™ Neotec™ Copper 365gr (green) bore size slug @1800fps is a heavy hitter, max expanding slug with excellent weight retention. The 20ga Schrifle™ non-sabot rounds typically produces 12% less serious flyers than any other current sabot-discarding production round.
The 20ga Schrifle™ round is the 3rd generation of a hunting slug design and is the ongoing result of over 5 years of research & development. The “out of the box thinking” that culminated into this unique design and was only made possible by the advancements in precision machining from the likes of an iso certified machine shop, plastic development, and new molding techniques. Most importantly, the quality control and consistency of the new gun powders over the last decade has vastly improved.
The 1st generation of sabot slug was developed in the early 1980’s for police use. In the late 1980’s that design was purchased & slightly redesigned by Bob Sowash (the BRI – Company). Then bought out by a shared venture of Winchester & Federal and re-introduced for big game hunting with rifled barrels for the 1991/1992 hunting season.
The 2nd Generation: The slug revolution took place over the next four years, (1993 thru 1996), by the industry in an effort to catch up with the accuracy of the TarHunt RSG-12 slug gun design introduced in 1992. The RSG-12ga would later on would be picked by Field & Stream Magazine (2009) as one of the 50 best guns ever designed, even when compared to the world’s best rifle designs. Even now, after 34 years THCR still remains the “World’s Leader in Slug Guns Accuracy”(1987-2021)”.
The 2nd generation (current production) sabot slug round is a placebo at best; it’s the industries way of giving you “the illusion that rifle like accuracy is available when sabot ammo is fired in rifled barreled slug guns.” Remington introduced the “Accelerator”; a 22cal bullet sabot in a 30-06 and a 30-30 Win case in the 1970’s. That design didn’t work then but the industry when ahead and tried to put ML & Pistol projectiles into the same design sabot for the country’s slug gun hunters anyway. 12% of sabot ammo are flyers using this design.
Ten years ago TH started thinking about all the issues with current sabot type slug ammo the conclusion was that the industry, had pretty much, already exhausted all concepts of using sabot technology developed from the early 1980’s thru 2015. The Lightfield Hybred EXP series using a sabot that is keyed fast to the projectile, still remains the best and most consistent of the current sabot designs.
The “Schrifle”™ design slug is the 3rd generation utilizing a bore size, NON-SABOT hunting slug. This new slug concept uses “out of the box thinking” to correct a number of problems that has plagued the first two generations of sabot slugs since the beginning.
It was decided that the 20 gauge would be best gauge to start with for this “out of the box thinking” attempt to correct the issues with sabot ammo. After 4 years of ongoing research the non-sabot generation, 20ga “Schrifle™” round was released, late in 2015, in an attempt to make an “accurate” short range rifle out of a shot gun. It will take a little time for the 20ga “Schrifle” round to be tried in the wide variety of 20ga rifled barrels configurations that were produced over the last 35+ years. Although, it will stabilize in any known 20ga twist rate. When fired in any of the pre-2000, 20ga RIFLED BARRELS; Accuracy may vary greatly depending on the actual bore size of the barrel.
WIND DRIFT ISSUES*: Another way of saying slug movement away from your point of aim. It is caused by the wind putting pressure on the projectile while in flight. It pertains to all rifles, slug guns, muzzle loaders and anything that moves thru the air. The effect is more dramatic on slow moving projectiles under 2000fps! It amounts to the “TOTAL AMOUNT OF TIME and the DIRECTION”–the wind has to push on the projectile!”
A head, tail, or cross wind, will affect all posted wind drift and drop figures. Any combination thereof can even move a slug in a diagonal or vertical direction. Head wind or tail wind also has a dramatic effect on the amount of drop seen when firing on an open firing range verses that of actual hunting conditions. With all of these wind drift variables it is obvious that ANY built in flyers (up as high as 12%) cannot be tolerated!
As you can see it ONLY takes a 10MPH cross wind to pretty much double the amount of win drift for each additional 50yds down range with guns under 2000fps. That’s why slug guns and most muzzle loaders CANNOT truly be compared to a rifle. Just by adding 800fps to a rifle round (@2800fps) you will have Aproxamently 75% less drift than a slug gun. That means the rifle will have Aproxamently 4″ of drift, instead of 16″ of drift at 200yds, like the slug gun.
Any place I have ever been hunting there is ALWAYS at least one or two (foot high) weeds of some sort, being pushed in some direction by the wind! All you need to do is look for them. Watch them swinging (move one direction and hold it for a few seconds) around on the range while your practicing. You will soon learn what amount of movement gives how much wind drift. On a golf coarse where wind flags are the norm. If you removed the wind flags from a golf coarse there would be all out war back at the club house. Must be because the velocity of golf balls are also under 2000 fps.
The average wind speed during Nov-Jan (the normal deer hunting season) is 17 to 23 MPH. Guess what the wind drift is at that wind speed? Its “FEET” ! “Considering all of these wind issues; less built in flyers in the ammo is the key to achieving the best down range accuracy when shooting a slug gun around hunting season”. “First eliminate the cause of most of the flyers, (the sabot). Then use a slug that actually fits the bore diameter of a 20 gauge rifled barrel”. “Then and only then can you learn how to shoot a slug gun, at long ranges, in the wind”.